North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Obama Presidency Oral History Back North Atlantic Treaty Organization Index / Organizations Transcripts Jake Sullivan ...itself, but also thinking about it from NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization... ...but also thinking about it from NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ] participation to thinking about th... ...In this case, it was some of our NATO allies, including the UK and France an... ...would look like. That's on the pure NATO ally side. Then there was a distinc... ...and on the United States by our NATO allies and the calls by the Arab state... ...and deep relationships with key NATO allies; meaningful participation fro... ...from the Senate in the process of NATO expansion through the 1990s, which gav... ...Europe, in particular, who had joined NATO in that timeframe; and then his view... ...with our core European allies, with the NATO -expansion countries, and then with th... ...to be there to have the back of our NATO allies. So I accompanied him on a tri... ...European strategy of reinforcing NATO and America's role in NATO? It wa... ...reinforcing NATO and America's role in NATO ? It was four major prongs. It wa... ...message, particularly as it came to NATO and Article 5. We were not going t... Show more... Michael Mullen ...Battle Group, and the US Second Fleet NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization... ...Group, and the US Second Fleet NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ] Striking Fleet Atlantic. Ashore, h... ...assignment was as commander, NATO Joint Force Command Naples; commander... ...were US, roughly ten of which were NATO . So there was even less US footprin... ...was a Navy admiral but who I knew in NATO , set up a meeting in Finland for th... ...been stationed in Naples, Italy, in the NATO four-star job from '04 to '05, so I ha... ...to get pulled together. I'm a NATO guy; been in and out of NATO. ... ... I'm a NATO guy; been in and out of NATO . I mentioned I was a four-sta... ...the president wanted to pull in as many NATO allies to be involved in this as h... ...But he wanted it to transition to this NATO force as quickly as possible, which w... ...We put a French three-star in as the NATO four-star's deputy, and was an arm... ...by Russia on Ukraine. As good as our NATO allies were, they ran out o... Show more... Michael Morell ...government positions, where the rest of NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization... ...positions, where the rest of NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ] and some Arab countries had troops o... William Burns ...Western interests in adding Ukraine to NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization]... ...interests in adding Ukraine to NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ]. During this time, as the US i... ...the Baltic states who are members of NATO , it was a straightforward case o... ...our commitment to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty, which ensures that everyon... ...the defense of anyone who's a member of NATO who's attacked, and that we did, an... Samantha Power ...was persuaded that working through NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization]... ...persuaded that working through NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ], and only if we got a UN Securit... ...few Arab military, who were part of the NATO -led coalition. And then in th... ...pacted way forward. So alongside this NATO -led operation under the UN mandate... ...that got involved as part of the NATO -led coalition to get out, and to sto... ...to the United Nations, or to NATO , or to any country, they ge... Show more... Colin Kahl ...Libya from March onward because of the NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization... ...from March onward because of the NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ] mission in Libya. There wer... ...the GCC [Gulf Cooperation Council]; NATO is behind this. We're able to ge... Stephen Kroft ...the US was going to do about this. What NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization... ...was going to do about this. What NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ] was going to do about this. Thes... Martin Dempsey ...efforts—in those days—responsible for NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization... ...those days—responsible for NATO [ North Atlantic Treaty Organization ] and for Africa, and feeding tha... ...the Baltics—and in other words, making NATO concerned for its future. Kim Jong-u... ...capable. So we were—and Turkey is a NATO ally. So you had the NATO ally at odd... ...Turkey is a NATO ally. So you had the NATO ally at odds with the Kurds, who wer... ...started doing some work—to try to get NATO to be part of the ultimate solution... ...So we tried to make the case with NATO that, “Come on, we think this i... ...from the United Nations or NATO —maybe. But in the absence of ... ...is not a Russia-US problem; this is a NATO problem. Because of course, in th... ...with the fall of the Soviet Union, NATO had pushed its borders a thousan... ...diplomatic relationships we had with NATO and to try and gauge NATO's appetit... ...we had with NATO and to try and gauge NATO 's appetite for responding to this... ...ask about those discussions with your NATO counterparts—recognizing that it was... ...was, as you said, a European issue, a NATO issue. How did you go about—was it ... ...over 2014. Yes. Well, the nations of NATO were always very careful to distinguis... ...to distinguish between what happened to NATO members and—which of course, include... ...to say they suspended—whenever we met NATO —we met three times a year—and wheneve... ...whenever we met, there was always a NATO Russia add-on to the meeting—to th... ...[laughs]. But they would always come to NATO . We would have a separat... ...went on after the fact. But in terms of NATO military, it was mostly all abou... ...symbolic. Then, the second thing that NATO did was, it began to—you could sense... ...to argue vociferously for permanent NATO presence in the Baltics. We already ha... ...it changed the nature of our NATO meetings, to be honest. And what I mea... ...my days, it was twenty-eight nations in NATO . We were always able to gain consensu... ...said we've got three problems that NATO has to deal with. One is Russia. One i... ...Baltics, it changed that. In fact, NATO began to drift into three camps. Th... ...oldest of the security chiefs in the NATO alliance. And in illustrating—i... ...deterrence needed to look like for NATO going forward, or how did Russia'... ...in Ukraine make you rethink the way NATO would approach deterrence? Well, it'... ...talked a little bit about reassuring NATO allies. Ultimately, I know the debat... ...a partner. But they're not a member of NATO . We don't have the same obligations t... ...was—with the permanent members of the NATO Security Council, P5+1, to find a way... ...Asia Nations]—in Europe, we have NATO , which is a very strong alliance... Show more... Load more Transcripts Related Topics go to the East Wing East Wing go to the The People's House The People's House go to the Criminal Justice Criminal Justice go to the Hawaii Hawaii go to the Human Rights Human Rights