National Security Council - Obama Presidency Oral History Back National Security Council Index / Organizations Transcripts Jake Sullivan ...Policy Committee], Deputies Committee, Principals Committee process to really develop out a mor... ...between the State Department, the NSC [National Security Council], othe... ...between the State Department, the NSC [ National Security Council ], other agencies of foreign policy i... ...And it required coordination at the NSC and ultimately presidential leadershi... ...deputy national security advisor at the NSC , and that role was open. I got a cal... ...as another deputy in the overall NSC constellation. A full seat at th... Show more... Avril Haines ...the president and legal advisor to the NSC [National Security Council] in th... ...and legal advisor to the NSC [ National Security Council ] in the White House Counsel's office... ...then as the legal advisor for the National Security Council . And that was completely fascinatin... ...structure of the US government. Every National Security Council gets structured slightly different fo... ...that identifies who you want at your National Security Council table, how you want to structure you... ...What was its relationship with the Principals Committee and your process relationship wit... ...The way it works is you've got the National Security Council , which is chaired by the president an... ...the secretary, basically, for that National Security Council meeting. Largely what your role is i... ...reflect the deputies' discussion at the National Security Council table and to make sure that yo... ...make sure that you understand what the National Security Council wants so that when you're chairin... ...piece of it. Susan, in her role at the National Security Council table, is really always sitting to th... ...the Principals meeting. So you have National Security Council at the top with the president chairing... ...Not all that many decisions go to the National Security Council . You don't have a huge number o... ...You don't have a huge number of National Security Council meetings. You do have a fair number... ...think, “Okay, now it's ripe for the National Security Council to make a decision about.” And sh... ...have that at the top. Then you have the Principals Committee meetings. Similarly, more goes to th... ...the Principals meeting than go to the National Security Council meeting, but also, again, no... ...also, again, not everything goes to the Principals Committee meetings. But a fair amount of busines... ...of business can get conducted in a Principals Committee meeting, and that is Susan, and th... ...are different levels of members to the Principals Committee meetings, and this also translates t... ...also translates to some extent into the National Security Council . But you've got statutory members... ...needed to be at the table for different Principals Committee meetings based on what the subjec... ...separate Homeland Security Council and National Security Council . President Obama integrated the two... ...that reflects the organization of the National Security Council ; it also reflects the role that th... ...would play in the context of the NSC . First it was John Brennan, and the... ...had two masters in a sense: he had the National Security Council , where he was a deputy nationa... ...that. First of all, our policy shop at NSC , strategic policy planning shop, cam... ...what we would do is, the policy shop at NSC interacted with the policy shop acros... ...space. But that doesn't belong in the National Security Council and in the discussions that we woul... Show more... Bernie Aronson ...would be able to follow that. Then the NSC [National Security Council] would hav... ...be able to follow that. Then the NSC [ National Security Council ] would have semi-regular meeting... Ricardo Zúniga ...for Western Hemisphere Affairs on the National Security Council [NSC] from June 2012 to May 2015. H... ...on the National Security Council [ NSC ] from June 2012 to May 2015. He wa... ...Brazil. Prior to his position on the NSC , he was political counselor in the U... ...Maybe when we get to your time in the NSC I'll circle back to that framing. Yo... ...for the Western Hemisphere at the NSC . Immediately he got in touch with ou... ...but we did it and sent it over to the National Security Council . They used it for a deputy's leve... ...want to get to your appointment to the NSC . We'll come back to Brazil at the end... ...President Obama, and to work at the National Security Council , was really too much of a draw. So... ...“Well, he's a senior official at the National Security Council , and he wants to interview you for ... ...for those three years you're on the NSC , I wanted to let you tell me, goin... ...from the beginning, at least in that NSC , there was a real dividing lin... ...to be. That was relatively easy in that NSC , both with Tom Donilon and with Susa... Show more... Michael Mullen ...wasn't the whole cabinet; it was the National Security Council [NSC], the main national securit... ...it was the National Security Council [ NSC ], the main national security players—... ...see him to have this discussion at the NSC as quickly as possible. So he, th... ...from that testimony, because we had an NSC meeting on something, and Rahm i... ...group. I can remember being at an NSC meeting with the president where th... ...that. We didn't debate it at the NSC , as I recall, to any grea... ...degree. And Obama was—I had a lot of NSC meetings with him on a lot of issues... ...was, at least certainly at the NSC level, he didn't do that for thi... Show more... Michael Morell ...it was the senior-director level at the NSC [National Security Council], and th... ...the senior-director level at the NSC [ National Security Council ], and the assistant-secretary level i... ...the president. It would have to be an NSC meeting. So it really depended on th... ...all agree that there should be no Principals Committee meetings in the future,” and passed i... ...we never got off of it. There was an NSC meeting, so the president is chairin... ...was, President Obama, in an NSC meeting, wanted both the principals an... ...from the Deputies Committee to the Principals Committee , and that was weird, to be at th... ...I was certainly in the room with him at NSC meetings when intelligence was put o... ...on intelligence was when he spoke at an NSC meeting, and when he asked questions... Show more... William Burns ...East and South Asian affairs at the National Security Council [NSC]. Ambassador Burns is president o... ...at the National Security Council [ NSC ]. Ambassador Burns is president of th... ...work as a pretty young diplomat at the National Security Council staff at the White House, late 1980s... ...secretary, policy planning, the NSC , as you mentioned. I'm wondering ho... ...coming into senior positions at the National Security Council staff, and had worked with them befor... ...was the senior Russia specialist on the NSC staff at the time and an old friend an... ...continuing expansion of the size of the NSC staff, which I wrote about in the book... ...attract smart committed people to the NSC staff who inevitably are going t... ...policymaking as the size of the National Security Council staff has gotten bigger. Almos... ...in one of the endless stream of [ NSC ] Deputies Committee meetings that ... Show more... 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