Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Obama Presidency Oral History Back Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant Index / Organizations Transcripts Betsy Bramon ...is somewhat coincident with the rise of ISIS and the attention to gender-base... Stephen Kroft ...Ukraine, and the rise of—I'm blanking. ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria]. ... ...[Islamic State of Iraq and Syria]. ISIS , right. But I think his overridin... ...of the Syria red line, the rise of ISIS . This is a question I asked earlier... ...Iraq, you know, and the emergence of ISIS , which was one of the more confoundin... ...a sudden, you had all these people from ISIS , who Obama mistakenly referred to onc... ...I said, “What are you going to do about ISIS ?” he said, “The internationa... Show more... Martin Dempsey ...could become real very quickly. Then, ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria]—well... ...they were a factor. Then, '14 is when ISIS came rumbling out of Syria and int... ...we were hoping they would do against ISIS . And we—well, I'll come back to th... ...to the regime in a second. But against ISIS , everybody turned on them, becaus... ...just briefly. The first is the rise of the Islamic State . And you stepped down in the fall o... ...for the end of the operations against ISIS . But I was there to help the presiden... ...not good. And the paper said, “ ISIS is on the move—” they had been sittin... ...the Sunnis and Shia. The point is, ISIS had a fifty-vehicle—mostly, thes... ...it's up to date with the progress that ISIS is making.” He said, “Okay.” They ha... ...military assessment of the situation. ISIS has about five hundred fighters i... ...Because along the way—if you remember— ISIS had been picking up weaponry that th... ...with—” because we didn't know whether ISIS had air defense weapons an... ...what we did. We used their air power. ISIS scurried back to Mosul. But of course... ...I said, “What it means is that ISIS has the ability to strike either Erbil... ...that that Mosul was liberated, and ISIS collapsed back into northern Syria... ...we didn't have a—in Iraq, to fight ISIS , we could make the Iraqi Army ou... ...was the only way we were going to get ISIS off the table. That's what happene... ...complication of Russia in 2014, and of ISIS in 2014. The other thing that happene... Show more... Terry Szuplat ...was still going; you had the rise of ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria]; an... ...in 2013. Then you have the rise of ISIS , so you have San Bernardino, an... ...an unlikely setting was, through 2015, ISIS had established its territory in Ira... ...American people about the fight against ISIS in all of its layers; the militar... ...throughout 2014, with the rise of ISIS , the many attacks in Europe and th... Naureen Shah ...coincides more or less with the rise of ISIS , and the administration's reengagemen... ...just say, determining what to do about ISIS . Did that reemergence of an urgen... ...drum up concern about informants, the ISIS wave starts, and people were mor... ...terrorists and more concerned about ISIS targeting people in the United States... ...to research and write, and all of the ISIS attacks. The ISIS attacks change... ...and all of the ISIS attacks. The ISIS attacks changed people's perception... ...gift, and he said, “With all the ISIS stuff going on, I'm not so sure... ...manufacturing terrorism. And then ISIS happened—you know, ISIS is growing... ...And then ISIS happened—you know, ISIS is growing. Like, those two narrative... ...problem of homegrown extremism. So you— ISIS is real, and ISIS was recruiting peopl... ...extremism. So you—ISIS is real, and ISIS was recruiting people in the Unite... Show more... Ben Rhodes ...invasion of Ukraine. There was the ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria... ...were Russian annexation of Crimea and the Islamic State . But ultimately, I'm interested in th... ...but you have Russia, and you have ISIS . Then you also have the ongoing war i... ...annexation of Crimea, the rise of ISIS , the deterioration of the Syrian civi... ...in the country. So yes, Russia and ISIS absolutely are the right—we don't nee... ...So that was that. I want to move on to the Islamic State now. Recognizing that it's a completel... ...coming to grips with the fact that the Islamic State was something different than what yo... ...suggested was not just the strength of the Islamic State , but also the weakness of the Iraq... ...to that because we didn't think ISIS knew how to run a dam. And then th... ...not just save Yazidis but to get rid of ISIS . Yet Iraqi political dysfunction ha... ...had contributed to the rise of ISIS because Maliki was a sectarian leade... ...forces and started tacitly enabling ISIS in some respects. So he gave ver... ...to have a conversation about a counter- ISIS campaign across Iraq.” And that worked... ...and that we could do enough to defeat ISIS without—and I think he even thought... ...ground.” What became the whole counter- ISIS model, he developed with Marty Dempse... ...Dempsey at this stage of the counter- ISIS campaign. The limiting factor was Ira... ...regard to terrorist acts committed by the Islamic State , I want to ask again, coming back t... ...where individuals are not controlled by ISIS but just go kill people because the... ...people because they feel aligned with ISIS . So from the communication... ...team. We did something different for ISIS than we did for anything else. We ha... ...but you need some perspective. What ISIS figured out is, the most gruesome—... ...doesn't even begin to describe it. But ISIS figured out how to hack the globa... ...unaccompanied children, Ferguson, and ISIS . I think the racial dimension of tha... ...Brown and the Ferguson protestors and ISIS and Barack Obama and unaccompanie... ...a Europe beset by this concern over the ISIS threat. Yeah. And I'll say, I don'... ...say, I don't want to be too glib about ISIS . The threat to Europe was ... ...knew from intelligence that there were ISIS cells in Europe. There were not ISI... ...ISIS cells in Europe. There were not ISIS cells in the US. That was the nature o... ...You care about climate change, not ISIS . I'm getting questions like “What'... ...questions like “What's more important, ISIS or climate change?” Obviously climat... Show more... Samuel Locklear ...too, that would've included the rise of ISIS and the [crosstalk]. It kept coming... Antony Blinken ...to deal with the rise of Daesh, or ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria]... ...al-Qaeda in Iraq and became Daesh, or ISIS . But what's missing from that analysi... Load more Transcripts Related Topics go to the Financial Reform and Regulation Financial Reform and Regulation go to the Veterans Veterans go to the Criminal Justice Criminal Justice go to the Labor Labor go to the Native America Native America