Nelson Mandela - Obama Presidency Oral History Back Nelson Mandela Index / People Transcripts Macon Phillips ...That's amazing. Now, you're not a Mandela Washington Fellow, or whatever we wan... Fatou Ba Ndiour ...really, in the beginning. Even for the Mandela Washington Fellowship, I would say tha... ...for you. But there's this program, the Mandela Washington Fellowship. And she sai... ...was so beautiful. This program, the Mandela Washington Fellows, originated a fe... ...then in the aftermath of the passing of President Nelson Mandela , the Obama administration renamed th... ...administration renamed the program the Mandela Washington Fellows. Fatou, can you tel... ...there were twenty-five young Mandela Washington Fellows, twenty-five fro... ...Heck. I said, “Dear Mrs. Heck, as a Mandela Washington Fellow placed at Howar... ...my name is Fatou Ba Ndiour and I am a Mandela Washington Fellow from Senegal. I wil... ...Mr. President. As you can see, we, Mandela Washington Fellows, go back to ou... ...the program, what is the impact of the Mandela Washington Fellows? Is it significant... ...But out of the nine people, five are Mandela Washington fellows. Within the firs... ...about that idea if it was not about the Mandela Washington Fellowship. I just saw ho... ...to go far. I just knew it. After the Mandela Washington Fellowship, she's just, yo... ...we joke about it. The first cohort of Mandela Washington Fellows that went under th... ...is historic. President Obama is like Nelson Mandela . He is like a figure of hope an... ...of reflection or encouragement as a Mandela Washington fellow. We'd appreciat... Show more... Michelle Gavin ...Rwandan genocide. It was the year of Nelson [Rolihlahla] Mandela dancing in celebration, the promise o... ...was the seeds of what would become the Mandela Washington Fellowships. The critica... ...The speech that the president made at Nelson Mandela 's memorial was played on the radio i... Gayle Smith ...Burundi, where he worked closely with Nelson [R.] Mandela . The relationship between the two o... ...the president of the United States and Nelson Mandela , who are like, “We've got to ge... Scott Gration ...one of the people who was jailed with Nelson Mandela . And he took us into this cell, and ... ...and I could see, as we learned about Nelson Mandela and his vision for what his countr... ...and where you're looking. And Nelson Mandela looked up and saw stars, and he planne... Eric Holder ...you about a trip you took in 2013, when Nelson Mandela died. You flew with other members o... ...reports about the condition of ex- President Mandela . When he died, it was not a surpris... ...I found to be really awe-inspiring, and Nelson Mandela was one of them. I first met him when ... ...memories. To be able to say goodbye to Mandela along with the people of South Africa... ...of that embassy, there is a statue of Nelson Mandela . The Anti-Apartheid Movement wa... Patrick Gaspard ...in the US. Some of them became part of Nelson Mandela 's circle when he was released fro... ...his cohort were profoundly corrupt. The Mandela moment had passed in a real way, an... ...already forgot the great gains under Nelson Mandela . They lacked a perspective for ho... ...a perspective for how things were pre- Mandela versus the experiences that they wer... ...story. I want to ask you about Nelson Mandela —you've mentioned him a few times—bot... ...there. Just tell me the story of Nelson Mandela and then his funeral and celebration o... ...activists appreciate what the ghost of Nelson Mandela meant to us as activists. He was kin... ...and people thought that is probably Nelson Mandela , we think, but we're not sure it'... ...we think, but we're not sure it's Nelson Mandela anymore. We just had this epic. God... ...was really comfortable with me being Mandela 's advance person. So when Mandel... ...being Mandela's advance person. So when Mandela steps off the plane at JFK [John F... ...the mayor himself is not in the room. Mandela decamps from the vehicle that we had... ...off. I'm like, Oh my God, the great Nelson Mandela . These are his first real words to me... ...Koppel held a town hall meeting with Mandela , and I got to talk with Ted Koppe... ...we go on, Koppel says he's going to ask Mandela about Fidel Castro and Cuba, an... ...about Fidel Castro and Cuba, and Mandela is clearly kind of put off. He's tol... ...by his aides that Koppel's going there. Mandela 's clearly not happy about this. H... ...why he won't denounce Fidel, and then Mandela just gives Koppel a tongue-lashing an... ...list, Mr. Koppel?” Then after that, Mandela crosses his arms and spent the rest o... ...hope on the far side of revenge.” I saw Mandela in that moment. He was still the gu... ...she's Betty Shabazz. And I got to meet Mandela again. In New York, it was a whirlwind... ...pace, and I'm spending time with Mandela and those around him. We're havin... ...I come back to South Africa, and Nelson Mandela is infirm. He has no ability to mee... ...came to Winston Churchill's funeral. Nelson Mandela is at that level, so just know that i... ...was of course excited to make remarks. Nelson Mandela is his hero. Then this incredible thin... ...you were at the ancestral village of Mandela when he was laid to rest there ten day... ...not expect to be asked to do that, but Mandela 's grandson reached out and told m... ...out and told me that he and Winnie Mandela and Graça Machel—I had developed thi... ...and you learn something new about Nelson Mandela . South Africa is a lush country, an... ...very similar in Cape Town. Qunu, where Mandela comes from, it's not like that. It i... ...understand a different kind of rugged. Mandela was a rugged person. He was very rugge... ...of absolute unconditional love for Nelson Mandela . Usually the saying is that a prophe... ...own hometown. That wasn't the case for Nelson Mandela and the people of that region. It wa... ...had been invited by the family to take Nelson Mandela home. So I really could reconnect wit... ...together in a way that spoke to who Nelson Mandela was and spoke to the journey that wa... ...was pushing back against the sense of Mandela 's nonracial society. Jacob Zuma wa... ...kind of tribalism that did not exist in Mandela 's South African politics that wa... ...politics. So there was a sadness around Mandela 's funeral. When you left Johannesbur... ...you'd say, “How did this man succeed Nelson Mandela ? How did he rally a party around him... ...Zuma do when he gets to Robben Island? Nelson Mandela negotiates with the aparthei... ...apartheid authorities agree to it, and Mandela helps create a sports league on Robbe... ...a sports league on Robben Island. Now, Mandela has a scheme wherein he understands i... ...connected to all of that. Even Winnie Mandela felt closer to him than to the other... ...the CIA and how they were part of the Mandela capture. I would just ge... ...“Yes, we supported South Africa, got Nelson Mandela . Now there's a government that's ru... ...Obviously because of the symbol of Mandela , there's no way President Obama i... ...Africa with young leaders that Mandela is not going to be an inspiration for... Show more... Kevin Lewis ...to South Africa. It was a huge moment. Nelson Mandela was still alive at the time. We wer... ...We were making plans for her to meet Nelson Mandela , and I'm working with his people t... ...the opportunity to spend some time with Nelson Mandela . That was special. Here's this gu... ...Obama at one point is studying Nelson Mandela , and now he's the president of th... ...time when she was able to connect with Nelson Mandela . It was all those things. And I was ... Michael McFaul ...that. This is the [Václav] Havel and [Nelson] Mandela of Russia, but the story is tol... ...to him. I remember him talking about Nelson Mandela . I remember him talking about th... Load more Transcripts Related Topics go to the Middle East and North Africa Middle East and North Africa go to the LGBTQ Policy LGBTQ Policy go to the Human Rights Human Rights go to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Nuclear Nonproliferation go to the East Wing East Wing